. >> do you think that caterpillar is making a call based on potential future policy? i think you're short-- what they are saying is foreign governments and their demand is what's falling off right now. the rest of the world is much-- >> right. >> because they were shrinking their economies a little too early in the recession and too quick into austerity and california is america's greatest economy, let's not forget that, much bigger than many, many states combined. right now, that's driving america and technology. >> the biggest doesn't necessarily mean greatest, does it, gary b? >> no, it didn't. and jonas is right. we'll have a chance to see how quickly, quote, unquote, california's economy grows, but i want to come back to one other point and jonas made the comment, government can create jobs. government cannot create jobs. first off to hire teachers, that's the biggest kenard out there, that's not the government's job. we would have had millions of net jobs, instead zero net jobs. the government does not create jobs, so that's silly. >> jonas, quickly respond. >>